I talked myself into keeping these and am sorry. I've never owned fleece, even from ON or T.. that wrinkled, but after wearing for less than an hour, they are wrinkled and look like I have slept in them. I loved the shorter, boxy matching top, but it also wrinkles. I ordered both medium and large... to try on. The medium was a little snug in the waist and had a weirdly long inseam, making me look like I was sagging my pants. I am only 5'4" and the legs are too short. The length barely goes to my ankles, but when I sit down they become capris and stick half way up my calf. When I stand back up, they get stuck on my calfs and I have very skinny legs. I can't imagine how short they will become after the first wash. The large pants were a full 2" longer and sized more like an XL. They were clown pants on me. I would send back and reorder the Medium in a tall, but then that dang crotch would be even lower. I find the fabric a nice color and thick and cozy, but what good is that if I look like a wrinkled slob when I wear these? Also there's a weird curve in the sewing at the crotch so it pulls to the left.